I'd like to post some quick news regarding the Post Affiliate Pro 4 version development.
Technical information
Both editions - Xpress and Pro - are based on the same engine. The only difference between them is in the number of preactivated features and addons.
Pro version will have these main features added:
- recurring commissions
- commission groups - allows setting different commissions for different users
- additional commission types - CPM commissions, per action, per "anything"
All this functionality is implemented using plugins, so you'll be able to upgrade the Xpress version to Pro by installing additional plugins.
Also, the additional functionality like multiple merchants, signup bonus, etc. will be implemented as plugins that you can but don't need to use.
Release date
Unfortunately, it seems we'll not make it until 15th October as planned. The optimistic estimation is that Pro version will be ready by the end of October.
I apologize to all of you who are waiting, but there are 6 people working on it currently, we cannot work any faster..
Anyway, I don't think one or two weeks more makes a big difference.
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Thank you for the information. We are really waiting for the release.
I am also waiting like hell. Couldn´t you already give the PAP-Customers a PAX-Download. As it is the same engine, it could be handeled as a PAP4-Pre-Release and we could have something for a developement-server or even for a live-system, that we can update later. When you do that, we only had to integrate some new modules later and the result would be the same. Only one change: We can use the new framework faster. ;-) Best wishes, Julian!
Hi once again, well ... to have pro end f october, optimistic, is late for me. It doesn´t kill me, but it is really late, because I want to strongly force the marketing of an event that starts on 8th of november. This is why I´d love to have the "pre-relase", I mean to be able to upgrade to pax now (exporting and importing the data manualy and knowing that I will loose some data) and later upgrade to pap4. If you would publish the new pricing wouldn´t it work like that: - Everybody who upgrades already now can directly download pax, because pax will be completely contained in pap4. - Then, when pap4 is published, the pap3-users, who already upgradet, can simply add the modules, that pap4 contains, and they are ready. I would really love to have a way like that. I originally planned to buy pax for that reason, but then, to be honest, the price shocked me. Then the light version came out, and I thought about buying it just to have an earlier update to the new framework. But it is limited to 50 Affiliates ... and I have 54. 8-( However, even if I´d have 49 it wouldn´t make sense, because then new signups wouldn´t work. You are really freaking me out since the first pax-release. I love that! PAX is wonderfull. But it´s a torture to have to wait that long for PAP4. Take it as it is: A BIG compliment to your software. And I have never in the last years been so often here in the forum als since the new release-promises. ;-) Best wishes, Juli an!
I've been waiting for the new version of PAP4 since November 2007. It's no surprise that the October 15th date has been pushed back. You guys really need to learn not to hype a product up until it's finished. I've been in the software industry for a long time and rule #1 is that you don't mention a new product until it's ready. Development always takes longer than you expect. Hyping up a product and pushing back a date so many times hurts your business a lot more than the "hype" you try to generate. PAP4 is going to be great I'm sure, but pushing back yet another 2 weeks "IS" a big deal. Don't brush it off like it's not. -J
Hi Jason, well, I agree on you, that it IS a big deal. I think it breakes down some earnings. However ... I am sure that the developers do what they can, they provide great support and so for my opinion it is just a "Lesson to learn". It´s something about "good balancing". It seems to me like all the products from Qualityunit have "theire time", and in the moment all other developement except of PAP4 is standing still. I have many of the Qualityunit-scripts and I see, that for example LiveAgent, SupportCenter and PMP is not developed since months, not even a little bugfix-release, while PAX and PAP4 are developed. The "Lesson to learn" would be: Not even mentioning it, bevore it is ready, to keep the ressources free also for other products. And to at least publish "anything", a little bug-fix all few months, to keep the feeling upt that "something is happening". With some more PAP-Releases, little ones, it would not look like such a big gap from September 2007 up to now. Best wishes, Julian!
Hello all, I'm really sorry for postponing release, but we simply cannot make it faster. Maybe it will be soomer than in the very end of October, but I cannot say it for sure. Julian, you want to "upgrade" to PAX even if you'll loose some configuration, but I think there won't be too many users who would be willing to do that. We have to finish the very basic functionality of PAP4 before we can release it. But we can make the migration script sooner, so that you'll be able to migrate to PAX if you want. I can start writing the migration script next week, it could be ready on tuesday-wednesday. You can contact me by email and we can arrange it. I believe you have my email, right? regards, mark
Hi Mark, I don´t know if I have your eMail. However, I think there is no migration-script neccesary, if I can use the export- and import-functions. Somebody told me, that I can export and import Transactions and Affiliates, this would be all I need. I simply don´t want to make you "more work", and when we can do it like that, I could immediately start to work on it. That would be nice. The onliest thing that I want to make sure is, that I can update then as a "normal" pap3-user to pap4, even if I had pax for a few weeks during upgrading. Is this okay? Best wishes, Julian!
I suspected that the release date would be pushed back, but only 2 weeks is reasonable, so that's okay. Unlike Julian, I'm willing to wait until PAP4 is officially released before migrating my affiliates, as I feel I should maintain the performance bonuses I now have in place. (This was one of the primary reasons I chose PAP to begin with, along with the detailed reports.) To be honest, even after PAP4 is released, I plan to put it through very thorough testing to verify every feature I use works perfectly before making the transition. Regarding the comments about pre-release notifications -- the only real problem is in forecasting a date you don't know if you can make or not. Announcing that you're working on a new product and that "it will be done when it's done" is fine and feels like a good balance between the two extremes. That's the way the CubeCart developers promoted their version 4 as they were working on it, with monthly updates on their progress and news about new features that had been implemented into the code. All of us who used that cart were hyped up about the new features and knew that it was going to be worth the wait, and no-one was sore that it took 18 months to develop. - Alan
hi, is this PAP4 support multiple merchants? is this a affiliate network script?
The network version will come out later. I would expect PAP4 to have all the features of PAP3 plus a few new ones, so I would expect that multiple login accounts to the same merchant interface will be possible, as currently exists in PAP3.
Hi all, PAP4 is not network version, network version will be released later. Regarding PAP4 - to give you a preview, we will release a beta of PAP4 (probably this week) to all our current customers to try it. The beta will not have all the functionality of the final version, only what we were able to make until now, and there will be no upgrade script yet. It will be mainly for you to try and test it, and possibly report what you don't like or want to change. As I said, we'll hopefuly release it whis week, I'll announce it with new post in this blog so watch it out :-)
Great news! Do you know, when the upgrade-script will come? Sorry, I know I said earlier "the update-script is not important for me". It still isn´t, but I just want to know a date. This makes it easier to descide, if I will do the update manually or wait for the script. ;-) Best wishes, Julian!
I'm in the same boat as Julian Wolf. I'd like to get PAX and start integrating now with the site I am developing, and then add on the additional features to upgrade to PAP4 once released. I'm also curious about when the update script could be available. If it can be done manually, I will also consider that, but if the script will be finished shortly then I can wait and test out the script.
As I said, upgrade script will be not available in PAP4 Beta this week, I can start working on it next week, so it could be ready somewhere in the mid of next week.
Hi Mark, it seems so simple, but happenes nearly never. Just to be total clear on that, and I guess lots of users will agree: --> Please post clear dates, that we can really count on. <-- Meaning: "somewhere in the mid of next week" does not really help. For my personal opinion I would prefear when you say for example: November 3th. But then this is a really deadline, no way for a next delay. In this case it is nice, if the script is coming earlier. But what I have is a fixed date, a deadline, that I can really built stable projects on. OK, this is not too important about the upgrade-script. I just wanted to take it as an example, because it is simple. This counts for every software-release: When you would have anounced PAP4 for 1th of January 2009, I would be totally happy that the first beta is comming out now. In fact, we have now the 21th of october, and that is later then the deadline was planed originaly. However, please understand me the right way: I know, software-developement is a hard job, and deadlines are something like the freaky-thing, that only really, really few companies handeles correct. Even Microsoft doesn´t do a good job on that. I just want to reflect you, that a optimistic promise sounds good in the first moment, but mostly produces more problems by expectations then a "pessimistic promise" would. In this case I would prefear the pesimistic promise, because that keeps me save: The deadline is clear. ;-) However, I am happy to work with PAP, even when it is comming later and later. ;-) Best wishes, Julian!
So is that two week extension from the 15th of Oct still solid or does the journey continue into November?? (or Dec??).
Hi Everybody, yes, it would be definitely more conveniant for all of us to have "later but saver" dates. ;-) My personal suggestion: As long as PAP4 is nothing more then "PAX plus modules", just give all the PAP3-Customers, who will geht the upgrade, a download of PAX. They will get it anyway as soon as PAP4 is published, but this would "calm down" everybody who is not so happy about the dates. And in fact I can´t see a reason for not doing that. Giving out the PAX-License (not for use on a new domain! Just as the pre-version of PAP4). Best wishes, Julian!
Why is there no response to this suggestion above that has been made repeatedly? Why is there no update as to what is hapening? Thanks - Peter
Hi Peter, we have released Beta of Post Affiliate Pro 4 yesterday so you can start using the new version (http://blog.qualityunit.com/affiliate-marketing/post-affiliate-pro-4-beta-released/). Missing features will be added as we develop it and when all features that should be part of PAP4 will be ready, we will release PAP4 as normal version. Best regards, Miso
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